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	<title>Comments on: Weird ordering of buttons in new Eclipse 3.5m7</title>
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		<title>By: Ivar Meikas</title>
		<link>http://meikas.com/blog/2009/05/weird-ordering-of-buttons-in-new-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivar Meikas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then this is Gnome issue :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then this is Gnome issue <img src='http://meikas.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Remy Chi Jian Suen</title>
		<link>http://meikas.com/blog/2009/05/weird-ordering-of-buttons-in-new-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Remy Chi Jian Suen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We changed this to fix &lt;a href=&quot;https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=57762&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bug 57762&lt;/a&gt;. Technically speaking, we are correct if you look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/windows-alert.html.en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GNOME HIG&lt;/a&gt;. The dialog matches the &lt;a href=&quot;http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/images/windows-alert-save.png.en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;example&lt;/a&gt; although I guess we are technically wrong because we don&#039;t use the exact text.

&quot;Extra buttons may be used to provide alternates to the primary action proposed by the alert text. Place these buttons to the left of the Cancel button, or the affirmative button if Cancel is not present. An example of a common alternate action would be a Quit without Saving button in a save confirmation alert. This is an alternative to the primary suggested action Save and the Cancel button.&quot;

In any case, this change was &lt;b&gt;intentional&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We changed this to fix <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=57762" rel="nofollow">bug 57762</a>. Technically speaking, we are correct if you look at the <a href="http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/windows-alert.html.en" rel="nofollow">GNOME HIG</a>. The dialog matches the <a href="http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/images/windows-alert-save.png.en" rel="nofollow">example</a> although I guess we are technically wrong because we don&#8217;t use the exact text.</p>
<p>&#8220;Extra buttons may be used to provide alternates to the primary action proposed by the alert text. Place these buttons to the left of the Cancel button, or the affirmative button if Cancel is not present. An example of a common alternate action would be a Quit without Saving button in a save confirmation alert. This is an alternative to the primary suggested action Save and the Cancel button.&#8221;</p>
<p>In any case, this change was <b>intentional.</b></p>
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		<title>By: AhtiK</title>
		<link>http://meikas.com/blog/2009/05/weird-ordering-of-buttons-in-new-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>AhtiK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually this new order seems to be also for MacOSX. Not sure how to tweak it there. Anyway, great hint from Carsten, thanks!

In the long run this change makes sense -- SWT goal is to be kind of &quot;invisible UI bridge&quot; between java code and native OS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually this new order seems to be also for MacOSX. Not sure how to tweak it there. Anyway, great hint from Carsten, thanks!</p>
<p>In the long run this change makes sense &#8212; SWT goal is to be kind of &#8220;invisible UI bridge&#8221; between java code and native OS.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivar Meikas</title>
		<link>http://meikas.com/blog/2009/05/weird-ordering-of-buttons-in-new-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivar Meikas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great hint :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great hint <img src='http://meikas.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carsten</title>
		<link>http://meikas.com/blog/2009/05/weird-ordering-of-buttons-in-new-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Carsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, looking at the changelog, it is configurable.
Add

gtk-alternative-button-order=1

to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, looking at the changelog, it is configurable.<br />
Add</p>
<p>gtk-alternative-button-order=1</p>
<p>to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0</p>
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		<title>By: Carsten</title>
		<link>http://meikas.com/blog/2009/05/weird-ordering-of-buttons-in-new-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Carsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*ARRGHHHH*

At least it should be *desktop dependent*, not toolkit dependent. On my KDE desktop, all applications have YES&#124;NO&#124;Cancel, and Eclipse wants to mess that up now? I really hope this is configurable somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*ARRGHHHH*</p>
<p>At least it should be *desktop dependent*, not toolkit dependent. On my KDE desktop, all applications have YES|NO|Cancel, and Eclipse wants to mess that up now? I really hope this is configurable somewhere.</p>
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